Winners Tell All

Insights from this year's CIC Hall of Leaders inductees

Since 1985, when the Washington, D.C.-based Convention Industry Council created its Hall of Leaders, 86 people have achieved the highest accolade of the meetings industry as inductees. The selection process starts with nominations from either CIC member organizations or the general industry community; the inductees are then chosen by a selection committee. M&C sat down with the 2004 crop of six including the eighth woman to make the list to learn what makes them great.

George AguelGeorge Aguel
Senior Vice President, Walt Disney Parks and Resorts, Lake Buena Vista, Fla.; 30 years in the meetings industry

Why you?
I guess it’s about how much you’ve given back to the industry. Volunteering at the industry level is something I learned and was given great advice about many years ago. And I’ve had the good fortune to be with two organizations [Disney for 14 years and Opryland for 12] that have supported me and allowed me to follow this philosophy.

What have you brought to the industry?
Hopefully I’ve been able to leverage what I’ve learned from these organizations to function as a leader and apply the development that I’ve gained over the years to the benefit of the organizations for which I’ve served as a volunteer leader.

What is the biggest change you’ve seen in the industry?
There has never been an experience like what we went through after 9/11. That really tested us. It was something we never trained for or were prepared for. It tested our leadership and our resolve, but we were able to respond to it and come back.

If you could change one thing in the industry, what would it be?
I would make sure both the planner and supplier sides were working on much more of a strategic level and not just a tactical level, so they can act in more than just a simple rates-and-dates approach. The two sides should look at how they can help each other advance, not just at “what can you do for me?”

What was your first job in the industry?
I worked in my dad’s steak restaurant, followed by such glamorous jobs as houseman and front desk clerk.

What advice would you give someone entering the industry?
Seek out some mentors whom you can learn from and maybe even emulate. Be sure to get involved, get very involved. The benefits that will come back to you will far outweigh the investment of
your time. 

How has the industry changed you?
I was a shy, quiet guy in my early years. I could never in my life envision being a very social type of person or standing up in front of large audiences.

Roger DowRoger Dow
Senior vice president, Marriott International Inc., Bethesda, Md.; 38 years in the industry

Why you?
Part of it is hanging around long enough. I know I’m the second most senior person on our sales team. But more than that, it’s such a relationship business, and that’s what I’ve tried to build upon. 

What have you brought to the industry?
I’ve personally brought a spirit of competition while staying extraordinarily close as colleagues. I bring a spirit of bringing people together, working with competitors to solve a problem.

What is the biggest change you’ve seen in the industry?
The industry has changed from a handshake and a back-of-the-napkin deal to “My attorney will talk to your attorney.” We spend more time now negotiating the force majeure clause than on the content of meetings.
Then there’s technology the ability to do business as if you’re across the street when you’re across the world. It’s good and it’s bad. I get a bit frustrated when a salesperson sends an e-mail instead of picking up the phone.

If you could change one thing in the industry, what would it be?
I would want to make it more attractive to young people earlier in their careers. I think young people stumble into this industry. But if you put in some time, you get ahead and it’s a lot more fun. I’d like to get the talent pool coming to us rather than us chasing them.

What was your first job in the industry?
Lifeguard for three summers in college [at a Marriott in Saddle Brook, N.J.], then I went into housekeeping for a very short time, and then I went to sales.

What advice would you give someone entering the industry?
Don’t be impatient on your first couple of jobs. Learn all you can. Learn to communicate learn to write. The people I have seen who step away from the pack have these communication skills.

How has the industry changed you?
First, it has taught me to understand what can happen when you bring people with different skills together. It has changed me from wanting to do things myself to finding who is the best person to get something done. It’s also given me a great world view. Sitting at lunch one day with someone from China and Russia and Iraq and Iran, I realized that everyone is the same; it’s just politics that mess everything up.

Joan EisenstodtJoan Eisenstodt
President, Eisenstodt Associates LLC, an independent planning firm in Washington, D.C.; more than 30 years in the industry

Why you?
I think I’ve done more for education for this industry than anybody helping others learn how to learn. And because the judges look at innovation, the MIMList [a meetings industry listserv she runs] is certainly innovative. I’ve helped sustain this community and helped people to learn from others.

What have you brought to the industry?
I bring a conscience. A lot of people in this industry are afraid to speak out when they see something wrong, when they see injustices. I am not afraid to do that.

What is the biggest change you’ve seen in the industry?
I haven’t seen that many changes, and that’s why I’m still working so hard. For me the changes are too slow, and they’re adaptations of pieces of changes.

If you could change one thing in the industry, what would it be?
Only one? Going beyond ethnicity, we have got to be an industry that is more inclusive of more types of people their learning styles, generations, genders, sexual orientation.
    We have got to start doing education better. Everything shows that meetings are the way adults get most of their education, and we’re still delivering content as if the audience were second-graders.
    I also think we have to look at ethics in a greater way. We’re complacent.

What was your first job in the industry?
I had two first jobs. My first was working in an art museum where I grew up in Dayton, Ohio. That was my first “I didn’t know I was a meeting planner” job. My first real job was as an association meeting planner; it was the organization’s 10th anniversary, and they had never had a planner before.

What advice would you give someone entering the industry?
Learn all you can about as many different things as you can, then learn more and be more active. Broaden your horizons. Don’t say, “I’m a meeting planner, therefore I’m X.” You’re A to Z. And take improv classes, and learn how to listen and respond appropriately.

How has the industry changed you?
The industry hasn’t changed me it has given me opportunities to grow, to practice many skills, to find myself, to help others, the latter being most important. 

Bruce HarrisBruce Harris
President, Conferon Global Services, the Twinsburg, Ohio-based third-party planning firm; 34 years in the industry

Why you?
I think the reason is, we were the first full-time independent meeting planning firm 34 years ago; we were pioneers.
    Also, the hotel contract as it stands today is a significantly different document than existed in the early ’80s; we were revolutionary in trying to get the contract two-sided. 

What is the biggest change you’ve seen in the industry?
The knowledge of the planner. In my early years it was the secretary who called up to arrange a meeting, and the hotel controlled everything. That’s not the case anymore. And it is by force that hotels, who respond to the marketplace, had to create the job of convention services manager. They didn’t have someone who interfaced with the planner.

If you could change one thing in the industry, what would it be?
I wish people had more courage to do what they know in their hearts is right and fair, and not be motivated by the dollar. That is idealism at its highest.  

What was your first job in the industry?
I bussed tables at a restaurant. That was my only entrance into the industry.

What advice would you give someone entering the meeting business?
If you want to be an independent meeting planner, I think you need to work in a hotel as a CSM. It’s an incredible experience you get to see a lot of meetings and meet a lot of people, and you get to see planning from the venue side.

How has the industry changed you?
When I came in, I never knew I would love it. I have grown this incredible passion for what we do.

Jim JonesJim Jones, CMP
President, James E. Jones Associates, a consulting and speaking firm based in Granby, Conn. Jones helped found Meeting Professionals International and the Society of Corporate Meeting Planners, and he was one of the first people to earn the designation of Certified Meeting Professional; 46 years in the industry

Why you?
Well, I would assume because I have extensive experience in the field, and I have a feeling I know what I’m talking about.

What have you brought to the industry?
The main thing I brought was truly basic education. I authored the first book on meeting management, and I wrote the first book on incentive travel. They were important because they gave planners some sort of track to run on.
    In addition, I was on the original board of directors that met in Chicago immediately following the congress that led to the formation of Meeting Planners [later changed to Professionals] International in 1972.

What is the biggest change that you’ve seen take place in the industry?
It’s been the growth of the industry itself. Also the operation of hotels has radically changed. Today you have a director of marketing and a convention services manager; these people just didn’t exist in the early years. Then you’ve had the technological change. It’s become much more complex to conduct and execute a successful meeting.

If you could change one thing in the industry, what would it be?
I would improve the training of directors of conference services, and I would expand the authority and the accountability of the position. I would truly make him an executive at the hotel. This has to be done.

What was your first job in the industry?
I was asked to assist on a very simple meeting here in Hartford [Conn.]. I had worked as a youngster in hotels, as a pot washer, but I was a typical meeting planner of the time, thrown into a situation where I had no idea what was involved.

What advice would you give someone entering the industry?
Don’t forget, despite all the technology and all the changes, the basis of the business of selling is still a person-to-person sale. It is not based on an identity of a large corporation. Go the extra mile in developing the relationships. People-to-people is the name of the game; that hasn’t changed and it won’t.

How has the industry changed you?
It has made me very appreciative of the need to develop skills and find out what I didn’t know. It’s a great lesson teacher, but a terrible way to learn, by trial and error. It made me grow up.

Peter NathanPeter Nathan
President, Exhibicon International LLC, an exhibition consulting firm in Westport, Conn.; 50 years in the industry

Why you?
I’ve asked that one myself. I guess it has to do with having spent 50 years in the industry and having the opportunity to be somewhat innovative. And the fact that I’ve concentrated on a lot of the overseas opportunities, especially first-time events in the Soviet Union, China and Cuba. Now I’m planning on developing an event in Libya. And I helped found SISO [the Society of Independent Show Organizers].

What have you brought to the industry?
Probably more than anything else, and I’ve certainly lived by it, I’ve brought ethics and loyalty. I believe very strongly in doing what is right, not only personally, but for the industry. And I believe in loyalty. My emphasis has always been, in addition to the bottom line, on my loyalty to my customers or my vendors or suppliers.

What is the biggest change you’ve seen in the industry?
Well, the growth is one; the consolidation through mergers and acquisitions has been tremendous. Then there’s the number of women working in the industry, particularly in the management capacity. When I first started, the only women were secretaries and such. Today I would estimate that 80 percent of the people involved in the industry are women. This certainly has changed the industry, and all for the better. I think women make excellent managers, and they also seem to be able to handle details and operational aspects better than men.
    The Internet has changed exhibitions tremendously, both operationally and through e-mail awareness and logistics, and also the idea of online events held both in conjunction with an exhibition and those held at times other than when the exhibition is held, which means there is a continuity for the exhibition all year long, rather than just for the few days of the events.

If you could change one thing in the industry, what would it be?
In the exhibition industry, the bottom line should not control everything, and that is pretty much the way most companies operate today. Attendees are so busy today that we are beginning to hurt ourselves in the long term with an oversupply of events.

What was your first job in the industry?
Believe it or not, it was a temporary position as a mail-room boy, short-term, with an exhibition organizer before I went into the military. I was lucky I fell in with them.

What advice would you give someone entering the industry?
Try not to get slotted into any specific area, whether it’s sales, marketing, whatever. Try to learn it all, especially if you want to get ahead in the industry.

How has the industry changed you?
Not just the industry, but who I worked with certainly broadened my outlook. By developing overseas events, I learned a lot about international relations and cultures. I think I became quite worldly and improved my ability to communicate with people tremendously.